From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jihyun Cho Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] adjusting korean key bindings Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:06:39 +0900 Message-ID: <9d644d9b0906170106r1955c983jf7309e1a49158c01@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d644d9b0906110727r7fc75080gf8f10ea47623db7f@mail.gmail.com> <9d644d9b0906111954m6cb49cb6pe61716bbe060c980@mail.gmail.com> <9d644d9b0906150521o23e54620v779832cc8df8e12@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1245226017 17544 80.91.229.12 (17 Jun 2009 08:06:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 17 10:06:54 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MGqAW-0004D2-Rc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:06:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38009 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGqAW-0005nF-B1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:06:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGqAQ-0005mr-GC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:06:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGqAM-0005m8-6A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:06:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55517 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGqAL-0005m5-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:06:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f186.google.com ([209.85.210.186]:40790) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGqAL-0001oT-Cy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:06:41 -0400 Original-Received: by yxe16 with SMTP id 16so141940yxe.14 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:06:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dsuo/AcmeB5ejlCVe/0uCeITwYATghDO9gAWYPg85fY=; b=ctYDUg7y4mhsWfOY/tkhriwvxX/kDVLALElfwzyXR/fxXuxNw1/n38EoJT6Oo+7KRL Srs9R+D0qmnBCyIGwKmFmIjhk8dLZiO2p2KgAcGAJYi3LBjs2IzqrKSMyyDkOashdYEL Wh+YWs/gawoeecH+2nwRP5DOoa/uChz/r52Hw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QRmuNQ5DtRYu07SYWIhLqlOJSN9AMkFaCIKyn3X/SV42TEdzZRMUUZEpINP3NSERtb ZcNwdHMjxg+bnByD78QAVZWF1pA/+ROLtMTXnbdYctsNJPsZtFGvGRDSInLU9LYiQYnU w6WnryYUkiSrSPg308H0Jq0O8ipqAu5EuFN+0= Original-Received: by 10.151.131.11 with SMTP id i11mr625207ybn.243.1245225999502; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:06:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111547 Archived-At: We are miscommunicating. I understood that you were concerning about users who are still using F9. And what I want to tell you about is, those functions(`quail-hangul-switch-hanja', `hangul-to-hanja-conversion') are doing same job(to input Hanja), but using different ways. If you think the backward compatibility is a problem, please just apply the function 'hangul-to-hanja-conversion' in my patch for many users to want to customize a keymap. And I have one more asking. There is no bindings for 'Hangul','Hangul_Hanja'. Would you add these bindings? 2009/6/16 Kenichi Handa : > In article <9d644d9b0906150521o23e54620v779832cc8df8e12@mail.gmail.com>, = Jihyun Cho writes: > >> > Do you mean that we don't need the separate hanja input >> > method any more? > >> What do you mean the "separate hanja input method"? >> If it means the method included in Emacs, we need it. > > I mean the file leim/quail/hanja.el. > >> I agree that F9 should be maintained as conversion key of Hanja. >> But the method `quail-hangul-switch-hanja' is not a general way in Korea= . >> Korean people don't switch the input mode to use Hanja. >> We just input a Hangul Letter, then F9 will convert the Letter to Hanja. >> I think it's more simple than the method 'quail-hangul-switch-hanja' >> for Korean user. > > It seems that we are miscommunicating. =A0I'm not discussing > whether "F9 should be maintained as conversion key of > Hanja." =A0As your patch doesn't change the f9 binding in > hangul-im-keymap, I don't have to argue about it. > > What I want to know is how important the change of f9 > binding in korean-key-bindings is. > >> - =A0 =A0(global [f9] =A0quail-hangul-switch-hanja nil) >> + =A0 =A0(global [f9] hangul-to-hanja-conversion nil) > > I asked you: > >> The key-binding of F9 for quail-hangul-switch-hanja is what >> suggested long ago by a Korean person (I forgot who was >> that). =A0Has the usage of F9 in Korea been changed in these >> days? > > and you replied as this: > >> But some people are still using F9 and Shift-Space. > > But now you say: > >> But the method `quail-hangul-switch-hanja' is not a general way in Korea= . >> Korean people don't switch the input mode to use Hanja. > > I'm now confused. > > If no one use the facility of quail-hangul-switch-hanja > nowadays, there's no reason to keep the current f9 binding > in korean-key-bindings. =A0But if some people still uses it, > we should not change it now. > > So, which is the case? > > --- > Kenichi Handa > handa@m17n.org >