From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jihyun Cho Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] adjusting korean key bindings Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:21:44 +0900 Message-ID: <9d644d9b0906150521o23e54620v779832cc8df8e12@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d644d9b0906110727r7fc75080gf8f10ea47623db7f@mail.gmail.com> <9d644d9b0906111954m6cb49cb6pe61716bbe060c980@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1245068521 11637 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2009 12:22:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 15 14:21:59 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MGBCJ-0008QJ-5V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:21:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45686 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGBCI-00005G-Cf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGBCB-0008TR-OZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGBC6-0008Ed-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:21:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48531 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGBC6-0008E8-Nn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:21:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f222.google.com ([209.85.217.222]:38812) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGBC6-0001IT-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:21:46 -0400 Original-Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22so3165058gxk.18 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J1bPxOVLNg2TjqOQhf/f6qEwI3tyyz+rdkkiUwabUvg=; b=Mu24MVfV+Ct+ojtgAtjZucpOd2rtv/qPvkBNh1+QC+zkDUJoYFIx+9sVVA1HUJ9Duf 07hmyC7vonoG4J/lfymoCK071LzyL3Y8OVYiKM4h74JH4Sx64SVLe4J79prmkCjlao99 X+1tJIvCZ7U71qcn3pjt97y3LMHsQJ6RwfzKk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v2XY2/1iag2ILMCrG8Ra9Qq2GCtT98dzrqhyLYBUAEYwz2IQYJrw+e0MVbgLKUUNf9 83jORwd39g4pXSLS42eL7OJEpOndDnnqTjZI4JD7Jm+qnrQrdqMQjCfQsABgxDkAzap+ 8DAiOfe4dBo9EnIeMNnY+PMAUBi9fOXC7/TiM= Original-Received: by 10.150.203.5 with SMTP id a5mr13049679ybg.337.1245068504765; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:21:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111522 Archived-At: 2009/6/15 Kenichi Handa : > In article <9d644d9b0906111954m6cb49cb6pe61716bbe060c980@mail.gmail.com>,= Jihyun Cho writes: > >> F9 was used in a 101-key keyboard layout in the past. >> Currently, A 103-key keyboard layout or a 106-key keyboard layout is >> used in Korea. >> Both of them are added Hanja key and Hangul key. >> But some people are still using F9 and Shift-Space. > > If what you mean is that some are still using F9 for > switching hangul<->hanja input methods, I think it's not the > time to change the key binding of F9. =A0As your patch adds > Hangul_Hanja for converting the previous hangul to hanja, > there's no urgent need to change F9 too. > >> A problem is a input method. >> Generally, The input method for conversion of Hanja is converting a >> completed Hangul letter to a Hanja letter. >> Most of Korean IMEs are implemented these method. >> The input method of emacs is little awkward. > > Do you mean that we don't need the separate hanja input > method any more? What do you mean the "separate hanja input method"? If it means the method included in Emacs, we need it. I agree that F9 should be maintained as conversion key of Hanja. But the method `quail-hangul-switch-hanja' is not a general way in Korea. Korean people don't switch the input mode to use Hanja. We just input a Hangul Letter, then F9 will convert the Letter to Hanja. I think it's more simple than the method 'quail-hangul-switch-hanja' for Korean user. You should know that 'one Hangul Letter' matches 'one Hanja'. and we normally know the 'pronunciation of hanja', and we want to write hanja with this.