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Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248502 Archived-At: On 02.05.2020 19:53, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 02.05.2020 19:40, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Look at the list of methods on the left, which you can click and it >>> makes you jump to the complete >>> description. I miss that list in Emacs. >> Why?  If you already know what method you want to look up, just use >> "C-h f" or "i" in Info.  If you do NOT know the name of the method, >> how do you know which method to click on? > > You look over the list, and either notice the word you wanted inside one > of the function names, or look at the names one by one, in the worst > case, and recall that one of them is what you need. It might be a > different skill, but it's one we already have (by the necessity of > dealing with a number of other languages). > > Looking over a list of 50-60 entries like that takes only a few seconds, > and that's longer than dealing with the manual. ^ faster