From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Coding systems and Terminal.app on Mac OS X Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:56:55 +0100 Message-ID: <9a1a2fd3978a1173ad5751bd86e4fe1f@Web.DE> References: <8e7ecd4be6d2db7520f896189a1b135b@Web.DE> <79e39130065cf34bca7eb33e35eff18d@Web.DE> <9b795a5704f093bfe3dbec55935dc49d@Web.DE> <355667b4edbd0f6e8c22264e0bd9f6b3@Web.DE> <76bf85cfe204136f51ff3b4119616af5@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111764056 3304 80.91.229.2 (25 Mar 2005 15:20:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 25 16:20:56 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEqc0-0000ei-4G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:20:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEqrV-0005Jb-JW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:36:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DEqoZ-0002fV-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:33:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DEqoX-0002e9-NP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:33:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEqki-0000am-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:29:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.72.192.225] (helo=smtp07.web.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1DEqF9-0001oE-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:56:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [84.245.189.184] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.104 #268) id 1DEqF7-000564-00; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:56:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: Original-To: Stefan Monnier X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35149 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35149 Am 25.03.2005 um 15:01 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > Now, where can we put this info so that users will find it? > Emacs' info file has already a Mac OS entry, it seems to be more related to Mac OS 9 and before. If this would be renamed accordingly and a new node 'Mac OS X' would be opened -- it would take some years until the other nodes will have their references to this one. And some distinction too is needed between using GNU Emacs as stand-alone X11 or Carbon application ... and in Terminal and/or xterm? Carbon Emacs has different fontsets. You can drag&drop files on it -- but when you copy with M-w a region you can't paste it into another Aqua/Quartz application -- at least I can't! The same is true in the other direction -- M-w only seems to add entries into the kill-ring-buffer which is accessible under the Edit menu. You can't mark (hi-light) text by dragging the mouse -- well, the new background colour comes, but a beep too! Since you have a Mac around try this Carbon Emacs 21.3.50 from CVS with some Japanese extras and interesting developments: http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html In December YAMAMOTO-san has introduced some new font handling: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-12/msg00004.html -- but I still can't see it with better ISO Latin-1/15 or UTF-8 support, it just allows to scale an OTF or TTF font in the system without having to use the limited embedded bitmaps. After Easter I might find some time to investigate this ... -- Greetings Pete