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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292384 Archived-At: On 7/21/2022 9:51 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Visuwesh [2022-07-21 21:46:24] wrote: >> Surprisingly, complaints about running LSP over TRAMP comes up really >> often in Reddit. > > Ah, so that's what you mean by "over the network". I'm surprised it > comes up that often. I don't think it's a super-common use case > (e.g. what other editor offers such a functionality? What do non-Emacs > users do when they have such a need?). I don't use VS Code myself, but from talking with people who do, my understanding is that it supports LSP over SSH. (VS Code is a bit different in that it requires you to install a specific VS Code server on the remote host though, so maybe the closest analogy in Emacs would really be using emacsclient over TCP.) For what it's worth, I do a *lot* of editing over Tramp and have tried Eglot-over-Tramp in the past. It mostly works, but it does require a bit of fiddling, since it seems to occasionally trigger a race condition in Tramp code. I vaguely recall a WIP Tramp branch that improved the reentrancy of Tramp code which might fix this, but I'm sure that's pretty tricky to get 100% right. - Jim