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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249346 Archived-At: > =E5=9C=A8 2020=E5=B9=B45=E6=9C=888=E6=97=A5=EF=BC=8C=E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=886:35= =EF=BC=8CAmin Bandali =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >=20 > =EF=BB=BFJo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: >=20 >>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:54 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>=20 >>> After thinking about that for a while, I came to the sad conclusion >>> that I no longer understand what is the relation between GNU ELPA and >>> the Emacs project. >>=20 >> GNU ELPA distributes some Emacs source files as :core-type >> package.el packages. This means that we can fix bugs and evolve >> features in those files in Emacs master and not having to wait many >> months until they make into the next core release. This has proven >> invaluable for the development of Eglot, a GNU ELPA package, which >> depends on jsonrpc.el and flymake.el, which are in the core. Bugs >> can often be fixed in those files and they'll be available to users the >> next day. I don't know if this counts as a meaningful relationship, >> but it is extremely useful nonetheless and we should expand it (in >> fact I discussed it with Dmitry and Stefan I'm going to do it soon for >> eldoc.el, xref.el and project.el). >>=20 >> Jo=C3=A3o >=20 > +1. And I'm hoping to have ERC added to the above list very soon. That=E2=80=99s a fine idea. But if we move core packages out into ELPA and a= I install it using a lower version of Emacs. Which package will be loaded? T= he ELPA version or the built-in version? Yuan=