From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Fabrice Popineau" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gnu Emacs and Vista ASLR feature Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:33:08 +0200 Message-ID: <9FB9B14E917644AB9E1BECE4E858DED7@Sparky> References: <483E84C0.5090708@gnu.org> <86zlq9o0no.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <483E8F87.9000703@gnu.org> <5BBD6029050F4515872251124D78E0CB@Sparky> <483EB2BF.6070903@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212082512 25888 80.91.229.12 (29 May 2008 17:35:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Jason Rumney" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 29 19:35:54 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K1m2a-0003be-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:35:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33579 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1m1p-00038z-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:35:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1jCL-0001mo-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1jCI-0001kj-PZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:33:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55185 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1jCI-0001kR-Kd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:33:42 -0400 Original-Received: from esemetz.metz.supelec.fr ([193.48.224.212]:59729) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K1jC8-0007zT-Lw; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:33:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.metz.supelec.fr (mx1.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.216]) by esemetz.metz.supelec.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4TEXUtl010618; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:33:30 +0200 Original-Received: from Sparky (sparky.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.190]) by mx1.metz.supelec.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with SMTP id m4TEDxWH004106; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:13:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <483EB2BF.6070903@gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/7281/Wed May 28 23:10:58 2008 on mx1.metz.supelec.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (esemetz.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.212]); Thu, 29 May 2008 16:33:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mx1.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.216]); Thu, 29 May 2008 16:14:08 +0200 (CEST) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:30:05 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97993 Archived-At: Thanks for the explanation. I'll see if I can investigate on this basis. > It is strange that Emacs works the first time. Sure. I was much more familiar with the internals of xemacs (well, some of them) so my comparison. As far as I remember, they have changed their lisp objects internal representation for one without pointers, so that it is entirely relocatable. I need to have a look at Gnu Emacs sources to see how it is handled. I must add that the same Gnu Emacs I compiled is running on XP. It suffered from the same startup crash syndrom, however I dumped again from temacs.exe under XP and it doesn't seem to crash anymore. Sorry if I have been quick with my conclusions. I will recompile this stuff in debug mode (if possible) and have a look. I have the msvcrt sources so maybe ... Best regards, Fabrice