From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Chong Yidong'" <cyd@gnu.org>, <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: M-= in Dired
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:19:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9DB30378A3D0455C9B0204CF38470D6B@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877gs52845.fsf@gnu.org>
> In Dired, M-= is bound to dired-backup-diff. This is no good; there's
> no good reason for Dired to override the global binding for M-=, which
> is count-words-region.
Actually, there is no good reason for the global binding of `M-=' to
`count-words-region' either.
It is wasteful of a perfectly good repeatable key for `M-=' to be bound to
`count-words-region', which is not a usefully repeatable command. You won't be
holding down `M-=' to repeat `count-words-region' multiple times.
It would be far better to bind `count-words-region' to something like `C-x M-=',
and thus keep `M-=' free.
It makes sense to use `M-=' for a repeatable action or perhaps as a prefix key
for grouping things that are mnemonic with an equals sign. I use `C-=', for
example, as a prefix key for various comparisons:
C-= b ediff-buffers
C-= d diff
C-= e, C-= f ediff-files
An equals sign can be suggestive of comparing things or of calculating/printing
a result, and no doubt of other things as well. (Emacs sometimes uses `:' for
the showing a result, as in `M-:'.)
The point is that we do not have a very good reason for sacrificing `M-=' to a
one-off command like `count-words-region'. Sure, that's a good command to bind
to some key, but let's bind it to `C-x M-=' or another key that is not so useful
as either a repeatable key or a prefix key.
> If there are no objections, I will simply unbind dired-backup-diff,
> and improve the behavior of = (dired-diff) so that it uses any existing
> backup file as the minibuffer input default, like M-x diff does.
No objection about that from me. But I would prefer that we find a different
binding for `count-words-region', for the reasons given above.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-07 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-07 14:57 M-= in Dired Chong Yidong
2012-09-07 15:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-09-07 15:29 ` up & down keys in Dired [was: M-= in Dired] Drew Adams
2012-09-07 17:05 ` M-= in Dired Philipp Haselwarter
2012-09-07 17:14 ` up & down keys in Dired [was: M-= in Dired] Drew Adams
2012-09-07 19:21 ` Philipp Haselwarter
2012-09-07 20:42 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-08 7:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-09 5:16 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-08 18:01 ` Richard Stallman
2012-09-07 15:19 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-09-07 16:40 ` M-= in Dired chad
2012-09-07 16:51 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-08 22:04 ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-08 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-09 13:02 ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-09 22:20 ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-14 23:45 ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-19 3:15 ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-19 20:10 ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-20 4:28 ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-20 12:30 ` Stefan Monnier
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