From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ryan Tate Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Clojure mode Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:07:13 -0400 Message-ID: <9CC4510C-82B9-4947-89DC-3A22EAA39259@ryantate.com> References: <837coytxs4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25254"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 10 08:58:23 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qfEOj-0006IE-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 08:58:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfENp-0000qw-2r; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:57:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfDbd-0000VO-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:07:37 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound.soverin.net ([185.233.34.18]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfDbb-0000vs-57; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:07:37 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (c04smtp-lb01.int.sover.in [10.10.4.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by outbound.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RjzsG6x2qzCN; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 06:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [10.10.4.99]) by soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4RjzsG0dBvzLJ; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 06:07:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Soverin-Authenticated: true In-Reply-To: <837coytxs4.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.233.34.18; envelope-from=ryantate@ryantate.com; helo=outbound.soverin.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:57:18 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310435 Archived-At: > On Sep 10, 2023, at 1:14 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 > Moreover, you revive this > old thread with harsh and unkind words, reprimanding us for bringing > up ideas(!) whose only intent is to make Emacs better. It was an idea to steal the name of a project, explicitly and in the words o= f the creator of emacs expressway for the purpose of gaining popularity for y= our own version. You can=E2=80=99t bring up an idea =E2=80=94 an idea to ste= al and trick =E2=80=94 in public and then get mad when someone criticizes th= e idea. Well, I suppose you can actually, but I find it baffling to do so an= d then say people are mean for criticizing it.=20 > Please in the future use kinder, more polite words when expressing > opinions here, TIA. Did anyone here consider the feelings of bbatsov or Clojure users when propo= sing to trick us into installing a gnu package instead of the original? Give= n the appalling orbat least _aggressive_ nature of what was proposed, you=E2= =80=99re being a bit thin skinned.=20 All that said, I am very grateful for emacs, and among the ways I have tried= to show this is by contributing patches (well, one) and money to fsf. =F0=9F= =99=8F thank you all for actions other than ones I wrote about=20=