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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o4-20020a17090a744400b00252b3328ad8sm4632588pjk.0.2023.05.14.12.23.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 14 May 2023 12:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <87ednjicc0.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102c; envelope-from=jporterbugs@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x102c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306120 Archived-At: On 5/14/2023 12:47 AM, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > I agree with everything up until the last paragraph, but am not > convinced that encouraging a "fun name" should be part of the > guidelines. I think I need to adjust the passage a bit to emphasize that the Emacs/ELPA maintainers would *prefer* a simple and straightforward name like "gobject". However, I also think it's important to show how you can come up with a good compromise if you're a package author who just can't let go of your fun package name. In my mind, showing in the documentation how to compromise on this would go a long way towards making package authors not feel like they're being micromanaged.