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Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248052 Archived-At: On 29.04.2020 01:00, Drew Adams wrote: > Dunno who, besides perhaps Stefan, considers > dynamic binding in Elisp to be "obsolete and > close to deprecation". That would be a mistake. Not dynamic binding, but the "dynamic scoped dialect". > IMO, Emacs Lisp should, like Common Lisp and for > even stronger reasons, continue to make use of > both dynamic and lexical binding. Each has its > uses in Elisp. Yes. And that's the "lexically scoped dialect".