From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: list of elisp primitives ? Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 07:34:56 +0900 Message-ID: <99624762-B6FB-4E23-B1A9-D5106C3C4EF5@traduction-libre.org> References: <627F3815-987E-4E82-8118-EE559CA7721F@traduction-libre.org> <8736dcflyo.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.40.2.2.4\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="64870"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 22 23:35:15 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ij9of-000GR2-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 23:35:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51224 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ij9oe-00012S-PR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 17:35:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41338) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ij9oY-00012L-0S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 17:35:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ij9oW-0001i0-LO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 17:35:05 -0500 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:54421) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ij9oW-0001Vo-CL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 17:35:04 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 182.251.133.189 Original-Received: from [172.20.10.2] (KD182251133189.au-net.ne.jp [182.251.133.189]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 493C520002 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 22:35:00 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <8736dcflyo.fsf@telefonica.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.200 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243570 Archived-At: > On Dec 22, 2019, at 23:56, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: >=20 > Jean-Christophe Helary > writes: >=20 >> That's 1290 functions... >>=20 >> The reference seems to have 1608 functions and 294 commands, so those >> primitives are not even a "useful subset" of emacs lisp functions... >>=20 >> I guess that was a na=C3=AFve idea. So I'll just have to go through = the >> reference and try to find myself a minimaly useful subset (which is >> what the Intro should be about, btw.) >=20 > The Elisp manual describes the most relevant functions for each topic. Which is not a minimally useful subset. Also, the description is not = always reader-friendly. Cf. my earlier comment about `unwind-protect' = and the way it's described in the reference. Even after reading the = docstrings I can't understand the description. Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune