From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Why change the advertised bindings of Isearch commands? Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:45:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <98f8a71f-1f10-4ff6-a4c1-8dc2d179b84b@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448563584 25205 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2015 18:46:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:46:24 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 26 19:46:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a21YU-00082v-HG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:46:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52797 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a21YX-0001Uy-0I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:46:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a21YC-0001GS-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:45:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a21Y9-0003Bm-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:45:48 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:37979) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a21Y8-0003BR-No for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:45:44 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tAQIjhOd022922 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:45:44 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAQIjhhC013252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:45:43 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAQIjhl2004897 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:45:43 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195310 Archived-At: In Isearch, these key bindings have long been in effect, and they are still in effect: M-e - isearch-edit-string M-c - isearch-toggle-case-fold M-r - isearch-toggle-regexp These keys are far easier to use than M-s c, M-s r, M-s e. So why have we changed the advertised bindings to be these more complex keys? IOW, why this? (put 'isearch-toggle-case-fold :advertised-binding "\M-sc") (put 'isearch-toggle-regexp :advertised-binding "\M-sr") (put 'isearch-edit-string :advertised-binding "\M-se") I do not think this is an improvement for users. If the aim was to let users know that they _can_ find such commands on the common prefix `M-s' (which is fine), that information is available in other ways. For one thing, it is trivial to do `M-s C-h' during Isearch, to see all of the `M-s' bindings. Let's please not advertise these more complex bindings in favor of the longstanding, simple ones (thankfully still usable).