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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273308 Archived-At: On 28.08.2021 16:49, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc:philipk@posteo.net,hi@ypei.me,emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:42:43 +0300 >> >> On 28.08.2021 16:37, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> When you say "we prefer" here you mean you personally, right? Because >>> there's no such project-wide policy, AFAICT, and I at least don't >>> agree. >> There is a known existing disagreement on this issue among contributors. > If a contributor_wants_ to have the package in ELPA, that's his/her > prerogative, which should be respected. But in this particular case > the contributor asked about our preferences, and that was what my > response was about. You stated your preferences, right? Stefan's are different, and mine are as well (which is probably well-known at this point). There are also many other proponents of "lean core", though I admit most of them, predictably, work on third-party packages rather than frequent emacs-devel.