From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] scratch/widen-less a4ba846: Replace prog-widen with consolidating widen calls Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 09:28:45 +0000 Message-ID: <97EC48DB-DA8E-45BD-9ACF-D0B978408F8C@gnu.org> References: <20171129233237.27462.23351@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20171201154913.GB3840@ACM> <1e542021-e389-cca4-6acd-349efddb2652@yandex.ru> <20171201223529.GG3840@ACM> <4a94ec5c-efdd-50f1-ff4d-277f5f45c2df@yandex.ru> <83lgil1qme.fsf@gnu.org> <83d13x1j2s.fsf@gnu.org> <34abea95-c7f7-e8fa-8407-8c2fd2a4cfe1@yandex.ru> <83y3mkzw1n.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv2zzv7z.fsf@gnu.org> <83r2saxyj1.fsf@gnu.org> <83efoaxv0c.fsf@gnu.org> <57382399-5efa-655f-e374-fbe1ef9d89aa@yandex.ru> <27732BB8-B3B7-4489-963E-A09333026A8E@gnu.org> <43ec332a-4de5-d3ce-1bc2-60b081447f77@yandex.ru> <6A58664C-42E7-48E4-BB90-0488FED4A7FD@gnu.org> <75360721-62e7-37aa-f623-4b7eac8d4fbe@yandex.ru> <6bfba3e0-10db-b1fd-0ecc-3eb9771b4443@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512577131 17807 195.159.176.226 (6 Dec 2017 16:18:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:18:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android To: Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 06 17:18:47 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMcOr-0001Nn-Ri for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 17:18:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54541 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMW1l-0005qn-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 04:30:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41020) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMW0o-0005jU-Ur for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 04:29:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMW0l-0007vx-R8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 04:29:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39841) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMW0a-0007p9-DU; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 04:28:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.12.136.31] (port=50109 helo=[10.208.45.224]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eMW0Z-0001an-Fx; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 04:28:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <6bfba3e0-10db-b1fd-0ecc-3eb9771b4443@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220759 Archived-At: On December 5, 2017 11:16:08 PM GMT+00:00, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 12/5/17 10:49 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 > >> It's an interactive function, and the only narrowing present before > it > >> > >> is the one possibly applied by the user, interactively=2E > >=20 > > Interactive functions can also be called from Lisp=2E >=20 > True, and that can be a reason to worry about stability (emacs-26 vs=20 > master)=2E >=20 > I don't think it should affect the eventual design here, though=2E My point is that this aspect of the design should be discussed before we m= ake the code changes=2E (I think this aspect is separate from the rest of = MMM related discussions=2E)