From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Yuan Fu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247610 Archived-At: > On Apr 23, 2020, at 1:47 PM, ndame wrote: >=20 >> The reasons why package authors would not want to include it >=20 > Also, it may not even occur to the developer to include the code > in emacs, because it works for him and he's happy with it. >=20 Another downside to adding one=E2=80=99s package to ELPA is the = inconvenience. On GitHub one can freely commit however he wants, receive = PR and issues; but if it=E2=80=99s in ELPA, you need to take care of = commit message formats, submit a patch and wait for someone to review & = commit the patch. Also, admittedly, while the email based workflow = works, and works fine, admittedly it is not as convenient as github=E2=80=99= s PR. It would be interesting to see a Emacs+email-based PR = system/interface. E.g., save comments and stuff into a =E2=80=9CPR = file=E2=80=9D and pass that back and forth through email, and view the = PR file with an elaborate interface in Emacs. Essentially an interactive = improved patch. Yuan=