From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs 21.2 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:21:18 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <9791-Fri22Mar2002162118+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1016807263 15121 127.0.0.1 (22 Mar 2002 14:27:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16oQ19-0003vm-00 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:27:43 +0100 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16oQ7q-00074W-00 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:34:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16oQ10-0005p0-00; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:27:34 -0500 Original-Received: from thor.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.11]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16oPyE-0005ef-00 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:24:42 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretsky (diup-218-188.inter.net.il [213.8.218.188]) by thor.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id AAJ27417; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:24:36 +0200 (IST) Original-To: simon.marshall@misys.com X-Mailer: emacs 21.2.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-Reply-To: (simon.marshall@misys.com) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2129 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2129 > From: "Marshall, Simon" > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:43:42 -0000 > > I realise each bug is a difficult call. But to explain my perspective, > if I had known that none of the above had been fixed in 21.2, I would > not have (a) upgraded and (b) bothered using the pretest versions. I > can see me following the same perspective for future pretests for 21.3. I'm sorry to hear that. From the v21.2 pretest experience, it sounds like the interest in trying the pretest versions has diminished lately in general. If that is so, the adverse effects of that will certainly show in the long run in the quality of our releases. I lament that tendency, and hope I'm dead wrong in my conclusions. I wish people would understand that sometimes stability is more important than fixing some annoying misbehavior or adding new features. I wish more people who read this list would participate in pretesting Emacs, even if the release under pretest is a minor bugfix. Of course, since there's a judgement call involved, everybody is welcome to step forward and argue for the changes they think should be included. But if you don't speak up, I can't see how can we take your views into account. _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel