From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tobias Gerdin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Spending time on Guile Emacs? Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 21:48:05 +0100 Message-ID: <96C4AEF9-2D74-47C9-848C-780454CB9DE4@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.1 \(3251\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480625300 11854 195.159.176.226 (1 Dec 2016 20:48:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:48:20 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 01 21:48:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCYH7-0001tv-S5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 21:48:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58870 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCYHB-0002GW-SD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:48:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53386) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCYH3-0002G1-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCYH0-0004AW-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::232]:35514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCYH0-00049I-3Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:48:06 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x232.google.com with SMTP id b14so180701888lfg.2 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 12:48:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:message-id:date :to; bh=OyXM0qrGdvw8m/nJj9gRuQcDeVRCzr20SPHt1/Hdro4=; b=YjQhxo/EIH5s7we3nS9JAnR+rByly8YYgFuhYCAfUBPqh/lgjuJ/QHrA17YqKbK5Gl gtSd9XzuU4FcrDMoYvIO7BIo+7qxMSpN7K0RD5GzgHrL/n2EsCUQ2KNB/Qj/MJqwt54G WPzLlxkOd+wt+p5xN6BUSKLV5tl+A8felgXjvPiNzoF3iUmLBPirzHNfPvdKtzZUggkL pmwT80UsmSgsEvJ/la45bgE03jBaXwDuXv+x+lN8pXveRA0bP3x6urjXjE1+O9JjbilQ 6/GyPAH59Kqf8ehuL4vyzDtRp/StBCOOiL0WzQFntwaY49footljMhMRRYM3d8DYFUXI m2tQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:message-id:date:to; bh=OyXM0qrGdvw8m/nJj9gRuQcDeVRCzr20SPHt1/Hdro4=; b=fprm6RF9lkJILQA5EJOVlLQDtAe8GePB/UsVGOP35iCsLqwJVH2WYCVvPcSlRLUzGN sYfNmLIhGyRGhmYw9Y905AN3z8j0vG9d3O+5oO9lksS4k+boT3H0tZQ04L9nAsO/W1Er mOzCiydNIExbumBmStEzZ8JsvK9qhc5gdf2RxX0izoYARyTcKtOzfAIkiv6e3TivoxHQ V6DIf9qzQ3DiDNgQK8XfzuK6cYuqW0eYBpdQ0UUtBUJDWTyvj58lxgDqAcV+H/yJa04y c7U2RS4qAoNpmcqXg+r+R/Y5Yxu47xIa9Y2I7Jv6I01qBKhMogz1RSxPUTN4yWU/EJ4R XeYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC0189c3xCEwmyRccYgBEPUHJ/kOnhU3Zaoq3lHmwE32s4+JCLA8+Y2fGS2p7w5IQCw== X-Received: by 10.25.5.7 with SMTP id 7mr13205579lff.125.1480625284328; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 12:48:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from tobias-mbp.lan (c83-249-242-89.bredband.comhem.se. [83.249.242.89]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k94sm305718lfi.5.2016.12.01.12.48.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Dec 2016 12:48:03 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3251) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209891 Archived-At: >> Did we ever address the mismatch between Guile strings and Emacs = ones? >> We can't depend on everything being valid UTF-8. > > = Guile-Emacs has an "easy" solution for this: there are 2 kinds of = strings, > the Scheme strings and the Emacs strings. In addition there is the text properties support. Unless one unifies the = two representations (perhaps via a compile-time flag if Emacs will be = statically linked with Guile) I think the challenge is to make it easy = and not too expensive to convert between them. -Tobias