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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274801 Archived-At: On 16.09.2021 08:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas , >> juri@linkov.net, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:15:59 -0400 >> >> This is a typical bikeshed kind of question, so there's not much point >> getting people to argue over it. The maintainers should make an >> executive decision on it (but they do need to come to an agreement >> among themselves ;-). > > We already had this discussion, and there was a conclusion. We > decided to use '..' as the quoting style in plain-text documents. > I've been using it everywhere since then. The main arguments were: > > . the ` character looks ugly on many modern displays The "` character look ugly" discussion resulted in changes of how these characters are rendered in the manual, the Help buffers, and so on. And in this manual page: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Documentation-Tips.html Note how it still recommends either using curved quotes around symbols in source code (which you apparently dislike; and so do I), or keep to the old convention of `..'. > . the Unicode quotes are not universally supported on text-mode terminals > . therefore '..' has the least problems > > This discussion was a kind-of tangent of the dispute triggered by the > changes in how we display `foo' quoted symbols in doc strings and > echo-area messages. That tangent was about NEWS and ChangeLogs and other plain text files. > If we want '..' to be highlighted in some contexts, let's change > font-lock to support that. You can't just go around breaking things and expect others to pick up the pieces. > And please remember that we are not talking only about comments, nor > only about ELisp files. We are talking about all kinds of plain-text > documentation: comments, Git commit log messages, NEWS, PROBLEMS, text > files in admin/notes/, etc. No, we are not.