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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319875 Archived-At: On 08/06/2024 04:44, Po Lu wrote: > Jeremy Bryant writes: > >> How about selecting 1 package to work on bundling by ease of >> implementation. >> >> For example, Philip's auto-header package is on ELPA, and Philip has >> ELPA knowledge. Philip, WDYT? >> >> (Reviewing the feature branches they are constructed in terms of general >> examples, it may help to have a concrete single package to work on bundling?) > And what of us sods who must build Emacs from the source code > repository? It would be awful if features bundled in source tarballs > were to be absent from, for instance, the Android redistributables: > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs > > and downloading dozens of ELPA repositories before each build, not to > mention repairing the inevitable incompatibility from time to time, is > not an enviable prospect in any sense. JFYI, only the ELPA repository should be necessary. The internal/external packages only differ in how they are tracked in that repository - but they are tracker anyway. The "external" packages are tracked in separate branches (called external/) - but you can get all of their contents with 'git fetch'.