From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:54:17 -0700 Message-ID: <95D1E650-0A11-478B-A24B-BD3A4F54E09E@gmail.com> References: <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <558D6A3D.1070706@yandex.ru> <877fqnzpno.fsf@gnu.org> <20150628192741.GA5983@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1546F277-7921-47B1-8A46-9A0DEFF4F11A" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435521272 27406 80.91.229.3 (28 Jun 2015 19:54:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 28 21:54:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9Ies-0006BY-9S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:54:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39739 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9Ier-0001qx-Nv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:54:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9Ieo-0001qs-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:54:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9Iek-0005Zw-1m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:54:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]:35961) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9Iej-0005ZC-MR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:54:21 -0400 Original-Received: by paceq1 with SMTP id eq1so93678276pac.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=qJSumXd61+JAofbSDSOTR6mbCg1wfmyIQklk9+7Sfq4=; b=tbM8uUiKHuUCDwMwyBBUkechw3u+M2HhVL2YwcAylLk8ZYg2CwnbYUoCMqm/6ZeaKD Elis56fm6zZwO/Z4cK5qzHT7J0ljr8vzXdSUSHQP0Km8xRF8Zb7omx0XIZos/6C+cXSM caeW5+jvXkTOqg0KO4aRvI38ToEOX6qofG65XgYdBk+6Qy1XuImIpsYhQkZ5OPGUL8X4 Tys+XdGnWjTijhMsYGqnfAxFwgMZ3sngjT7wX9ihA/G2PSFxj5qJjNoDduefk0iJjmhn ow25EGtdHqn3Fjj/DzFpZDLiQJmTSpNdXH9KL4NzgM3WOCPplH2vdjvVxfiAiQ/4vdIp FpTg== X-Received: by 10.66.136.39 with SMTP id px7mr24734475pab.130.1435521259688; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.31] (97-113-55-215.tukw.qwest.net. [97.113.55.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qg5sm39867104pdb.13.2015.06.28.12.54.17 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:54:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150628192741.GA5983@acm.fritz.box> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187623 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail=_1546F277-7921-47B1-8A46-9A0DEFF4F11A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 28 Jun 2015, at 12:27, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >=20 >> For example, I've seen uses of =E2=B8=A2foo=E2=B8=A5 for marking up = source code >> snippets. That seems pretty unambiguous (although you can never be >> sure), .... >=20 > Whatever those quoting characters might be, they display on my = terminal > as inverted question marks. I haven't a clue what they might be, and = it > would be a lot of work to find out. Curious: does `C-u C-x =3D' not work for some reason?=20 It works fine for me even in a glass TTY, but I wasn't actually able to find a nearby TTY that didn't display them properly with only=20 several minutes effort. ~Chad= --Apple-Mail=_1546F277-7921-47B1-8A46-9A0DEFF4F11A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On 28 Jun 2015, at 12:27, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> = wrote:

For example, I've seen uses = of =E2=B8=A2foo=E2=B8=A5 for marking up source code
snippets.  That seems pretty unambiguous (although you = can never be
sure), ....

Whatever those quoting characters might be, they = display on my terminal
as inverted question = marks.  I haven't a clue what they might be, and it
would be a lot of work to find out.

Curious: = does `C-u C-x =3D' not work for some reason? 

It works fine for me even in a glass TTY, but = I wasn't actually able
to find a nearby TTY that didn't = display them properly with only 
several minutes = effort.

~Chad
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