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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255037 Archived-At: > > (And other Edit submenus, such as Go To and > > Bookmarks could reasonably be moved to File; > > they're not particularly about editing.) >=20 > They are in Edit because other applications put them (or similar > stuff) under Edit. >=20 > The Emacs menu items and their arrangement are not random, they were > well thought of and discussed at length. There's usually a good > reason behind every choice there. I didn't assume randomness. And there are countervailing good reasons to move them from Edit (e.g. to File). Most things in Emacs UI have been "well thought out and discussed at length". There's still room for improvement.