* Re: master f56408a: * lisp/progmodes/xref.el (xref-pop-marker-stack): Don't obsolete.
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@ 2021-10-26 8:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-26 8:56 ` Mattias Engdegård
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From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2021-10-26 8:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel, Mattias Engdegård
On 26.10.2021 11:17, Mattias Engdeg�rd wrote:
> * lisp/progmodes/xref.el (xref-pop-marker-stack): Don't obsolete.
Why not?
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* Re: master f56408a: * lisp/progmodes/xref.el (xref-pop-marker-stack): Don't obsolete.
2021-10-26 8:48 ` master f56408a: * lisp/progmodes/xref.el (xref-pop-marker-stack): Don't obsolete Dmitry Gutov
@ 2021-10-26 8:56 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-10-26 9:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
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From: Mattias Engdegård @ 2021-10-26 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmitry Gutov; +Cc: emacs-devel
26 okt. 2021 kl. 10.48 skrev Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>:
>> * lisp/progmodes/xref.el (xref-pop-marker-stack): Don't obsolete.
>
> Why not?
It felt small-minded to generate obsoletion warnings for external packages that now have to make their code uglier in order to avoid that if they are particulate about a clean CI, especially if they compile with byte-compile-error-on-warn (which I often do).
The warning doesn't tell them anything useful; the semantics haven't changed. This is in contrast to the variables made obsolete.
Does this reasoning make sense? I could revert the change.
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* Re: master f56408a: * lisp/progmodes/xref.el (xref-pop-marker-stack): Don't obsolete.
2021-10-26 8:56 ` Mattias Engdegård
@ 2021-10-26 9:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-26 18:12 ` Mattias Engdegård
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From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2021-10-26 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mattias Engdegård; +Cc: emacs-devel
On 26.10.2021 11:56, Mattias Engdegård wrote:
> It felt small-minded to generate obsoletion warnings for external packages that now have to make their code uglier in order to avoid that if they are particulate about a clean CI, especially if they compile with byte-compile-error-on-warn (which I often do).
>
> The warning doesn't tell them anything useful; the semantics haven't changed. This is in contrast to the variables made obsolete.
>
> Does this reasoning make sense? I could revert the change.
I don't have a strong opinion about it, but that's how we usually do
renames: without changing semantics, mark the previous name as obsolete.
I suppose the alternative is to wait for ~6 years until it's reasonable
to drop support for Emacs 28 in third-party code? And then mark it obsolete?
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* Re: master f56408a: * lisp/progmodes/xref.el (xref-pop-marker-stack): Don't obsolete.
2021-10-26 9:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
@ 2021-10-26 18:12 ` Mattias Engdegård
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From: Mattias Engdegård @ 2021-10-26 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmitry Gutov; +Cc: emacs-devel
26 okt. 2021 kl. 11.35 skrev Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>:
> I don't have a strong opinion about it, but that's how we usually do renames: without changing semantics, mark the previous name as obsolete.
You are probably right. I'll revert to marking the old name obsolete, unless someone comes with a strong argument for not doing so.
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