From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Paul W. Rankin" via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 07:51:55 +1000 Message-ID: <936DFE4B-B16D-45A2-A6C2-AF13C451BF39@bydasein.com> Reply-To: "Paul W. Rankin" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.7\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33125"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 22:53:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOoyB-0008XQ-7a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 22:53:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43700 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOoy9-0001mm-WC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 17:53:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOowy-0000Us-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 17:52:32 -0400 Original-Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]:41190) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOoww-0000aI-F8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 17:52:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=kj/YGvFbuhmnYv8nmT77QRm6RmdHFI6A1fXyyy29/fPONNZ8jcghYWpwsfM/0pgHmgyV4u8Zs1BXJiEq4NHIohP0xHQ8Ulgj2f0R3o34PbX1y0kxH/mPN7ToQmiAW9ytn4Ba/jZEKuE0puuBm/kzfs8/oDwD/qtJwD0dy7zBvu9QqlWIVplY6VGPUbcmsBhquBdO54RvnSq6mUxcJKWhW/iXVcMcbh/gRayD+vyarBw5VIqbgMy/l/eyOyhwDH1d7MyWaNz6deuMDjLl04tbfUQ0sh5Cv1EIRjBp8UCh0JprV0iW041sBCchmLRfQwPces75IU8WEgtBYnIfbJFxQQ==; s=purelymail1; d=bydasein.com; v=1; bh=QuhZ6Uq4TjnqyYODPYSECWD10acHjSGdkZerr1JJ5ug=; h=Received:From:To; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=VgP+zYvB3WJciqhM7bJ5qjSsjL+QtfS3GfKVhtYFbqOeRgs/DE2Josn/4inuMyRb2rp1t3C5IOLqAQ4qrGlpEs50EJu4ao446UUFNY85mU54JuLELFERvhNo2UkL8Fg7ZKT+GXV+lXiliAyyYs7cPlcuI557DV7L0QM0GQHUNkqnuWQTEmPBY0E/+rRLCwVYoAEU0/1Ntq8ZCqE5PTK0939oVwVByoj55czebGaui26+7wTtoqO1tCMMhlJseNjiY1hGs0vfIfouP+bL6Mkg8viQwBKml6Mc5r4ylVUSNGw+hQ36f0PrNrzC0HSdYVcUOYxZn0WlEn/juah02lJ6gQ==; s=purelymail1; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=QuhZ6Uq4TjnqyYODPYSECWD10acHjSGdkZerr1JJ5ug=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:From:To; Feedback-ID: 791:353:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by ip-172-30-0-247.ec2.internal (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID 809031143; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 21:52:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.7) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=pwr@bydasein.com; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266896 Archived-At: > May I suggest the attached, slightly more controversial, experimental = test? Along this same vein, I suggest that we unbind the `e' key from = self-insert-command and instead make it insert the string "Emacs " 17 = times, e.g. Before: the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog After: thEmacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs = Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs quick brown fox jumpEmacs Emacs = Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs = Emacs Emacs Emacs d ovEmacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs = Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs r thEmacs Emacs = Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs Emacs = Emacs Emacs Emacs lazy dog This would be a boon for promoting Emacs, and anyone wanting the legacy = behaviour can just rebind `e' in their init. Lets apply this to the master for the lols as an experiment for... one = month! Or maybe we could just not break fundamental editing operations?=