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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286672 Archived-At: On 2022-02-20 04:31, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > > As much for my own testing as for yours, I have created a set > of > > > > binary "snapshot" releases of Emacs for Windows. > > > > > > Do we have something lie this for GNU/Linux? > > > Or is there some reason why there is no need for them on > GNU/Linux? > > > GNU/Linux users have the various distros that package Emacs > binaries > > for them. The volunteers who produce the MS-Windows binaries are > in > > effect acting like such a distro for Windows users. > > That's true, but (1) they do this for _releases_ and (2) it is not new. > > The "snapshot" releases are apparently something else. How are they > different from the Windows binaries volunteers have made in the past? I have been making snapshots (somewhat erratically) for many years. So they are the same as those. The justification is the same as with the release binaries. Users of windows often lack the tools for building their software, while it's common under GNU/Linux and other systems. Most of the people who want "snapshots" on GNU/Linux build from a git checkout. That's not so easy for windows, hence we have snapshots. I don't see this as providing more support from windows, just making up for a difficulty on windows. Phil