From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to poll the users Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 06:12:07 +0300 Message-ID: <91a0e88e-11d0-e3ea-534f-825b41529c88@yandex.ru> References: <87a736wyed.fsf@yahoo.com> <2F7AD0CB-FF83-4244-BD77-7E0460A77762@icloud.com> <87wo6a7abj.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o8rlbnic.fsf@yahoo.com> <45098d13-2770-4a19-6f82-b22276eb51c8@yandex.ru> <877dy91mb0.fsf@yahoo.com> <0ce06d95-0593-bc55-983f-6b6601503a1a@yandex.ru> <38f07534-f9db-64eb-5256-e73bcebafef4@yandex.ru> <8e4a5b46-f9a6-400e-f573-f73b419e229f@yandex.ru> <18a14ae4-66da-496b-8929-355e8833ecb2@default> <1eb74697-c7ce-47fc-886d-96a1d2ca01d1@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="10621"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, seb@k-7.ch, pcr910303@icloud.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 05:12:49 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGfx-0002fh-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:12:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40700 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGfw-0007t2-5S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:12:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGfL-00078q-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGfL-0002i6-B6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x329.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::329]:33541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGfK-0002ht-VP; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x329.google.com with SMTP id v8so1240496wma.0; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:12:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gLK+TJbFTT+Dq/EBVMUIBzu3kwzRlDVFWHoOHni/h4o=; b=MpY7m8XVNaaMVrIZiQroLy9Aj8avJKnalwTfJ3maE+YdcVn0H5BDTZl48ksysxD6S/ /zJdAkB7sHLf65Gogtro+oanRExTcmsHRVXocoWkdp+qXnr/PJq/6aTOtukYd4SFf1DP wK9B/nNOGecI5jjoE370QSVU7kBIPCPNxzrc14a7u4XsGM/gMBiq1JSU2Kv97HpPIk9I vIMGkKXlPQv0qWIYnq/uijkYblgAVWH3IM/0oeoZq8HmCU6IxnYBHBbX0Y+zKeCC7cW9 Ags/duSOx/F0ynxYC1+ioGpb+uSDQZE5MybWugBKiCaB121vv11WPVAModMGTlJDM+70 qlag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gLK+TJbFTT+Dq/EBVMUIBzu3kwzRlDVFWHoOHni/h4o=; b=dM5zSTvDZEg25BTzinc3hg5r/Mgt8Bc9au7mlvXePMplIz35xFVjv9D/aD27rAaBAL xRj2fy3jOJwMwHHkaL8Ypb4Z6iSIlNUjv+Qnu8pKr3rSib8MK9URtq7xDQe4BgrOvHYB 2OS6jYNRkxOoe4ZKfk4l/lFcLV5GmiBkq+ZB/K5B0AjgfsQlnn+Q6mATHg/71i3OcFRj +ZwOvRvW92eXruU9BA+RUQvf5i0knrh/GIskfagRNF55uJiLx+z7wvPUX/EDfvGJaH+k dUvJIJAMyfeW7rT71WcZOBCZTyVg4Pb7uwrApBl40LINHtv2rYjCFFVs2KFtfd6Cj0nn 1jvw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYbm8MbECnfrQAi9dLvPkWlIzeg5hFHglwMGejDWxa64iaFp3uA g2k2JEPIjO9W66BnjW/2CPA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIOllUk/bCnSlbD67NJZvxUd3Kl947B3sPCFr+JTB0XmMcUTxt12Pfahw0qOpqNjGQRiXbqlg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:e408:: with SMTP id b8mr2048988wmh.68.1588043529173; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id l5sm23267600wrm.66.2020.04.27.20.12.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:12:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::329; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x329.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::329 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247991 Archived-At: On 28.04.2020 05:44, Richard Stallman wrote: > I've noticed over the years that respondents tend to give simple (thus > not very useful) answers and that it is necessary to urge them to > explain more. > > Just now it struck me that the word "poll" might suggest to > respondents that the answer requested is simply "How much do you like > or dislike this", with 5 or 7 possible answers from "Hate it" to "Love > it." Does this seem likely? Polls can have different forms and shapes. But, of course, most people will find it easier to choose from one of the options rather than elaborate in text. Especially when they think the answer should be obvious to everybody. > Should we call it something else? We > could describe it as a "study" or "investigation" instead of a "poll". Since you are dead-set on doing things exactly your way, please go ahead and choose the wording, the whole message, and we'll post it in all places our users can frequent.