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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313857 Archived-At: On 15/12/2023 08:45, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 23:41:38 +0200 >> Cc:stefankangas@gmail.com,monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,akib@disroot.org, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> >> On 14/12/2023 22:28, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>> Somebody else (e.g. a maintainer on some package on ELPA) would be able >>>> to skip a step or two and send would-be contributors a link to the >>>> repository. >>> And they are unable to do that today? why not? >> I've done this many times, but it never really felt like the "right >> thing to do" since it's not the documented course of action, more like a >> quick hack that happens to work by imitation. > I'm not sure I understand. What we have now_is_ documented: see the > parts of Stefan's patch that modify the relevant areas of our > documentation. So what is not documented now, and how the proposed > changes will change that? Sorry, you are right. I saw that change when it was added, but then, when the responses on the mailing list continued to say "form sent off-list" and not pointing to the gnulib URL, its existence slipped my mind. Looking at the patch again, I suppose one advantage we could add is pre-filling the answer to the first question (what is the name of the program) -- this is relevant to the ELPA maintainers in particular because one has to repeat every time that the respondent should just say "Emacs", every time. But your concern #1 is valid, of course. Stefan's patch also updates trouble.texi with more direct advice, in addition the current pointer to emacs-devel. So if we decide not to adopt the patch in its entirety, we could still alter trouble.texi to point at Gnulib's request-assign.changes.