From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: rms@gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 a9c48d5: Additional fixes for file notification
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 10:05:57 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <90d83040-7837-4af7-a7aa-16424cae187e@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<E1aYH1M-0006ia-SR@fencepost.gnu.org>>
> > It's insane that Emacs now calls these `cl-caddr' etc., instead of
> > calling them `caddr' etc. like all other Lisps (those that have
> > them) - including Emacs prior to this renaming.
>
> "Renaming" is a misleading description of what happened.
> Emacs Lisp never included a caddr function under any name
> before among its standard functions.
>
> There was a caddr function in the optional cl package (which I
> suppose is still there),
Precisely. That `caddr' function is slated (was, at least) to be
removed and thus replaced by the equivalent `cl-caddr' function.
That's what I meant by renaming. That's what I think is crazy.
> and there is now a cl-caddr function in the cl-lib package.
For now, yes. Stefan's plan was to obsolete `cl.el'.
> > Hard to believe this actually went down.
>
> In 1985 I needed to keep Emacs small. I could not afford to add
> functions such as caddr.
That's not the "this" that I have a hard time believing went down.
It is the renaming to `cl-' that I find hard to fathom.
> Today, there is no need to keep Emacs so small. So we may as well add
> c...r and c....r to Emacs Lisp.
Excellent. Agreed 100%.
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[not found] ` <E1aXuf6-0007rW-6h@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-02-22 18:51 ` [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 a9c48d5: Additional fixes for file notification Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 20:41 ` Michael Albinus
2016-02-22 20:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 20:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 21:07 ` Michael Albinus
2016-02-22 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 22:48 ` Michael Albinus
2016-02-22 23:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 21:39 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-22 21:42 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-22 22:28 ` Oleh Krehel
2016-02-22 23:15 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-23 1:05 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-23 1:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-23 2:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-23 16:41 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-23 16:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-23 17:11 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-23 22:48 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-24 1:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24 2:00 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-24 2:50 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-24 2:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 3:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24 3:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 3:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 4:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24 4:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 15:18 ` Nicolas Richard
2016-02-24 15:33 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-24 12:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-24 15:29 ` Nicolas Richard
2016-02-24 16:51 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-24 4:08 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-24 10:02 ` Stephen Berman
2016-02-29 6:24 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 7:06 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-29 15:41 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 19:53 ` Joost Kremers
2016-03-01 16:53 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-29 17:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-29 18:11 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 18:47 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-29 19:28 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-29 21:19 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 21:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-29 22:19 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-01 16:53 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-01 20:09 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-23 17:45 ` Richard Stallman
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2016-02-23 18:09 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-24 13:41 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 23:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 23:50 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-23 17:45 ` Richard Stallman
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2016-02-23 18:05 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-02-24 13:41 ` Richard Stallman
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