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From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 08:44:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90277C17-5C44-411F-A43A-EFCA9C0B7345@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvv93gjxdo.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>



> On Sep 4, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> 
>> This would probably be a good candidate for the profiles idea.
> 
> FWIW, binding `kill-region` to `C-x` (and `copy-region-as-kill` to
> `C-c`) is a hard problem in Emacs.  `cua-mode` tackles it in a pragmatic
> way, and it's pretty good at it, but it comes with enough caveats that
> I don't think it's a satisfactory solution.
> 
> If people are serious about trying to make Emacs easier for newcomers
> accustomed to other tools, I think it might be worth developing
> a package which starts with those C-<zxcv>` bindings and works its way
> to create a complete new set of keybindings.
> 
> It's a work comparable to what is done for god-mode, Evil, etc... where
> you'll need to have ad-hoc tweaks for many (most?all?) modes.
> So it's a long-term maintenance challenge.
> 
> I keep wishing someone came up with a clever way for modes to specify
> their key-bindings in such a way that Emacs can automatically derive from
> it the keys to use "normally" as well as the keys to use in Evil or the
> keys to use in god-mode, or the keys to use in this hypothetical new
> `really-cua-mode`, ...
> So as to finally address this long-term maintenance challenge.
> 

On Mac I never had the problem because C-x/c/v and other system shortcuts are bound to the Command key, not Control. So I can use Emacs bindings with Control and system shortcuts with Command. Can we do the same in Windows and Linux? We can use the win key as Control for Emacs—seems that was where the Control key back in the day anyway.

Yuan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-04 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-03 18:00 [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration Drew Adams
2021-09-03 20:06 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-03 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04  2:00   ` Tim Cross
2021-09-04 13:26     ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 13:39       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 14:25         ` Keybinding styles Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 15:44       ` Yuan Fu [this message]
2021-09-04 15:50         ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 15:55           ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 16:07           ` Yuan Fu
2021-09-04 16:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06  3:07             ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 11:28               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 19:55           ` Keybinding styles Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 20:52             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-05  7:17               ` tomas
2021-09-04 16:09         ` Bird
2021-09-04 20:48         ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Tim Cross
2021-09-05 19:03       ` John Yates
2021-09-06  4:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-07  3:16         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07 12:02           ` John Yates
2021-09-08  3:29             ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08 12:15               ` Keybinding styles André A. Gomes
2021-09-08 13:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 20:37                 ` John Yates
2021-09-09  5:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 13:40                     ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-15 14:26                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-15 15:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 20:15                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-15 21:29                         ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-09-16  5:20                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16  5:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09  3:09                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04 16:05     ` [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration Stefan Kangas
2021-09-04  2:20   ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 13:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 14:58       ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 16:10         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 16:40           ` Drew Adams
2021-09-05 19:27   ` John Yates
2021-09-07  3:16     ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07 15:31       ` Barry Fishman
2021-09-09  3:07         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-09 14:07           ` André A. Gomes

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