From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 21.2.90 pretest, 21.3, 21.4... Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:54:22 +0300 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <9003-Tue05Nov2002215421+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> References: <20021104170119.BAB6.LEKTU@terra.es> <20021105084024.0CD8.LEKTU@terra.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036526855 16385 80.91.224.249 (5 Nov 2002 20:07:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1899z3-0004G4-00 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:07:33 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 189A7D-00045T-00 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:15:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1899uB-0005DT-00; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:02:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 1899lO-0003BP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:53:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 1899lK-0003Aq-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:53:25 -0500 Original-Received: from odin.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1899lJ-0003AC-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:53:22 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretsky (adsl-ayalon-pc-128-136.inter.net.il [213.8.128.136]) by odin.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.1-GA) with ESMTP id ASG29507; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:53:14 +0200 (IST) Original-To: lektu@terra.es X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <20021105084024.0CD8.LEKTU@terra.es> (message from Juanma Barranquero on Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:56:59 +0100) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9142 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9142 > Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:56:59 +0100 > From: Juanma Barranquero > > Still, we're pretesting 21.3 since... when? March or April, at least? > There's really so big a list of problems with the pretests that we're > taking six months for a bug-fix release? I explained elsewhere in this thread that mundane practical problems caused this delay, in addition to real issues. I'm sorry that I was part of the reasons for the delay, but I do have a life. I'm sure everyone knows that the way to speed up things is to volunteer to make them happen. > > Personally, I think it'd be a sad day when the quality of the released > > Emacs versions will be anywhere near GCC's. Since GCC 3.0, I don't > > think there was a released version without a couple of major bugs. With > > all its limitations, I'd vote for what we have now in Emacs any time. > > Copying some of the procedures does not necessarily mean copying the > errors. I think it does mean that. But this is a different discussion, so I suggest we drop it for now.