From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.mail.mew.general Subject: Re: [mew-int 01596] Re: windows 1252 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:49:31 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <9003-Thu13Nov2003214931+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <87llqzuvaj.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031104.111334.60445673.kazu@iijlab.net> <200311070713.QAA24793@etlken.m17n.org> <20031110.161123.49979847.kazu@iijlab.net> <200311100742.QAA29290@etlken.m17n.org> <87ekwdilwx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200311130101.KAA04554@etlken.m17n.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068753216 14846 80.91.224.253 (13 Nov 2003 19:53:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mew-int@mew.org, kazu@iijlab.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 13 20:53:33 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AKNX3-0002YA-00 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:53:33 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AKNX1-0001IF-00 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:53:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AKOTv-0002R5-1n for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:54:23 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AKOSF-000226-1d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:52:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AKORi-0001xP-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:52:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.16] (helo=frigg.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AKOQc-0001mr-8M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:50:58 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski (pns03-206-96.inter.net.il [80.230.206.96]) by frigg.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.7-GR) with ESMTP id DAL27386; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:49:06 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Kenichi Handa X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <200311130101.KAA04554@etlken.m17n.org> (message from Kenichi Handa on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:01:57 +0900 (JST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17808 gmane.mail.mew.general:544 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17808 > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:01:57 +0900 (JST) > From: Kenichi Handa > > (defvar ctext-non-standard-designations-alist > '(("$(0" . (big5 "big5-0" 2)) > ("$(1" . (big5 "big5-0" 2)) > ;; The following are actually standard; generating extended > ;; segments for them is wrong and screws e.g. Latin-9 users. > ;; 8859-{10,13,16} aren't Emacs charsets anyhow. -- fx > ;; ("-V" . (t "iso8859-10" 1)) > ;; ("-Y" . (t "iso8859-13" 1)) > ;; ("-_" . (t "iso8859-14" 1)) > ;; ("-b" . (t "iso8859-15" 1)) > ;; ("-f" . (t "iso8859-16" 1)) > > I think Dave is correct because CTEXT spec has this > paragraph. > > Extended segments are not to be used for any character set > encoding that can be constructed from a GL/GR pair of > approved standard encodings. For example, it is incorrect to > use an extended segment for any of the ISO 8859 family of > encodings. For the record, when I worked on this code, I added the ISO 8859 charsets mentioned above because the then official version of the CTEXT spec did not include them in the list of approved standard encodings. So, as far as that CTEXT spec was concerned, these charsets were not members of the ISO 8859 family.