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From: jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+mail.linux)
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <jmbarranquero@wke.es>, Lucas <lukhas@free.fr>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:25:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8yhp3yh7.fsf@blue.sea.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86brmldvbd.fsf@avet.kvota.net> (Danilo Segan's message of "Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:23:34 +0100")

* Thu 2004-03-25 Danilo Segan <dsegan <AT> gmx.net> mail.default.spool
| That's only a reason to educate them better, ...

That is not the correct way. I believe that if there is functionality
that is not appropriate for the 99 % of the users, it should be
changed - not matter what other "education" might then be.

But you missed the point. Emacs is a companion. It should be a good
one.  Right now M-g is not a good companion. It could be much better
with goto-line.

| I suggest you try "emacsclient -n +5 path/to/file"
| ... With all this, I rarely if ever need to use M-x goto-line.  

For you maybe. I believe the more user friendly Emacs is, the better
people get a hand on it. Why do you think there is vi(1) people
that never touched emacs? Or Windows users that use programmer's 
file editor instead of Emacs?

Little things can make a difference sometimes. M-g could play a tiny
part towards it.

| For "average joe", we want to make them learn the better way.

Sure, they can add line to .emacs to map goto-line. Everybody
can. Millions of users can. But that's unproductive and unnecessary.


Jari

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-25 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-25  6:11 Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-25  7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-25  9:10   ` John Wiegley
2004-03-25 15:06     ` Eric Hanchrow
2004-03-25 16:39       ` ams
2004-03-25 21:54         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 22:21           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 23:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 23:41               ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 23:53                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26  0:50                   ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26  2:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26 11:14                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 10:29                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-26 12:38                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 13:36                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-26 14:25                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-27  0:07                               ` Miles Bader
2004-03-27 14:53                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-04-01  1:53                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28  1:36                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-26 15:27                       ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-26 17:49                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-26 15:19                   ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-26 16:40                     ` David Kastrup
2004-04-01 14:25                       ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-01 16:15                         ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 16:26   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26  0:19     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 16:53     ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-25  9:46 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25  9:54   ` Lucas
2004-03-25 10:21   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 10:32   ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2004-03-25 11:23     ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 11:34       ` Lucas
2004-03-25 14:22         ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-03-25 11:55       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 12:30         ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 13:43           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 14:34             ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-29 20:34               ` Ted Lemon
2004-03-25 13:53           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 14:49             ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 15:14               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 16:08             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 16:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 18:56                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-25 19:39                   ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 12:25       ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux [this message]
2004-03-25 12:55         ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 14:16           ` Jari Aalto
2004-03-25 16:28           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 17:28           ` Alan Shutko
2004-03-25 12:27       ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 13:47         ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 15:18           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 13:35       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 13:53         ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 21:09           ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-27  5:52           ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-27 16:30             ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-26  0:11         ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2004-03-26 14:31           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26 15:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26 21:31             ` Jari Aalto
2004-03-26 21:29               ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27  0:16                 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28 17:02                   ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-28 17:37                     ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28 21:11                       ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28 21:10                     ` Miles Bader
2004-03-25 11:42 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 12:27   ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-25 14:56     ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-25 18:03       ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 19:10       ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-25 16:47   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 16:42     ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26  0:13       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-27  5:52   ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-27  8:14     ` Jérôme Marant
2004-03-27 11:00       ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27 13:50         ` Jérôme Marant
2004-03-27 10:46     ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28  4:25       ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-28 17:03         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-28 21:14           ` Miles Bader
2004-04-01 16:04           ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-01 17:35             ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27 16:17     ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-28  4:25       ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-28 13:32         ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-28 13:50           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28 17:52             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-03-28 17:29           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-28 21:18           ` Miles Bader
2004-03-29 20:56           ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-31  9:30 ` Kim F. Storm

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