From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Metaproblem, part 3 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:06:30 -0500 Message-ID: <8megseikqh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203193110.GF12748@thyrsus.com> <20141203215426.GA15791@thyrsus.com> <547FFFE3.9000100@cs.ucla.edu> <5480E5E7.4010803@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417766806 13542 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 08:06:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 08:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 09:06:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnuP-00019Q-6V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 09:06:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49191 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnuO-0000Zy-F9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:06:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55493) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnuM-0000Zt-0K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:06:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnuL-0006Ls-6X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:06:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54503) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnuL-0006Lm-3H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:06:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwnuI-0005rm-VD; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:06:31 -0500 X-Spook: counter terrorism Bush Wired industrial espionage X-Ran: <$NF#CLo)nDQ4Iz*VRwMm%(hL*"Uh%d{;@H0^P(upD[(x);xSi(2-LzhB^(Cr_Pdr!G`tg X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178889 Archived-At: Stefan, You do a wonderful job maintaining Emacs. I can't think of anyone else who could do it anywhere near as well, from the point of view of either your technical accomplishments, or being so damnably nice to people... Many thanks for all the work you put in. I can quite understand you being tired of it. I'm sorry that I can't help with any of the specific points you raised. (Well, I've been trying to stay out of arguments.) I really hope people step up in response. Eg, there seem to be several people interested in package-related matters. Yours really-worried-about-the-future-ly,