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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258889 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Nowadays we prefer `external`. Ok. > >> a development version will anyway be hosted in the >> recutils.git repository. > > That's going to be inconvenient unless you keep it in a separate branch > (otherwise, you can't just push/pull between elpa.git and recutils.git, > so you end up fighting to convince Git to keep the history of > rec-mode.el without bringing along all the history of recutils, plus > ignore all the other files plus remember that `etc/rec-mode.el` in one > is just `rec-mode.el` in the other, etc...). Understood. We will create a rec-mode.git separate from recutils.git and then just push to an external ref on ELPA. > >> Some minor things that need to be addressed before the package can be >> submitted formally, but these are fairly trivial to address: >> >> * Use of `cl' rather than `cl-lib' >> * Adding required package.el headers for the major mode > > Actually, we can fix those afterwards. If you want help with that, just > ask (but beware that I'll also change it to lexical-binding and won't > be able to resist making various other cosmetic changes like using > `define-derived-mode`). Ok. I'll see how far I can get, we could probably start with a `Package-Version: 0' initially and then iron out any kinks before it's released. Do we need push rights to elpa.git to be able to push to the external ref? >> Then it comes down to copyright assignment: we need to check if >> committers to rec-mode.el have given copyright assignment to FSF for >> GNU Emacs. > > Actually it doesn't have to be "for GNU Emacs", but rather for their > contribution (i.e. it could be covered by another assignment such as one > for the recutils package, tho AFAIK there are no such assignments). > I checked with Jose E. Marchesi, GNU recutils doesn't require FSF assignment. Do we need to do anything special about the Elisp contributions, or there any problems with this? -- Antoine Kalmbach