From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "David De La Harpe Golden" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving X selection? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88443 Archived-At: On 07/02/2008, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > The current behavior > of Emacs (and XEmacs) was generally decided ages ago, deliberately > flouting the conventions of X11 (I believe these are recommended but > not mandated by the ICCCM), which haven't changed since then AFAICT. > My understanding is that this behavior was hotly debated at that time, > and deliberately chosen. Since then, freedesktop.org has further spoken, so things have in fact changed slightly: http://standards.freedesktop.org/clipboards-spec/clipboards-latest.txt > > lightins: > > Yuck. Sounds like occupying a government office as a demonstration > against opaque politics. Please spell out your intended expansion, > and let the users choose the abbreviation. > Would be nice to find one that didn't induce an extra hyphen is all - interprogram-cut-function interprogram-paste-function interprogram-highlight-function interprogram-highlight-insert-function is just annoyingly asymmetric looking. It's probably "good enough" though, unless there's a better suggestion.