From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Docstrings and manuals Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:50:35 +0300 Message-ID: <8dfdfe5d-41fe-7c05-0054-0bd3e589390e@yandex.ru> References: <6ok2vyzwf9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <08f70cda-44be-0657-e50a-2b2c80d2c21c@yandex.ru> <87oa9dzgl0.fsf@gmx.de> <87potshczh.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9f4ghzg.fsf@gmx.de> <8737qnc8ep.fsf@gmx.de> <87k2jwd3gr.fsf_-_@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460890267 21254 80.91.229.3 (17 Apr 2016 10:51:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , emacs-devel To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 17 12:51:02 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1arkIA-0002oc-BK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:51:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44214 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arkI6-0003pM-H3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 06:50:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42223) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arkHr-0003mY-F8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 06:50:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arkHo-0005XI-9g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 06:50:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x243.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::243]:33234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arkHo-0005X6-2f; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 06:50:40 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x243.google.com with SMTP id y144so16978257wmd.0; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 03:50:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=egbUsiKUX+RGvxTQhOE0ZEaHBNUvlZGZgL0teYabui4=; b=HPaYkfX5044Yg/Z4/mafmWOhgLT75pxwuSfrq4dkEI7N0DKb5+rxf+fBrd7e9CLikC XAipuArhMwVw1aH2d/sCStuH7OZcD5ODLnxnXZ9uM/zgvLAFlS4/dkn/rMOXh4AvfWea l/VYYGRMSH3F/OTJbwV9XswgOWSuOEXz8Gh66hsFb/RWSnjKcIZY2gFrgFQncCCTPI60 6kyDnhNhU6iJguobtusM/5deKVHSyNvS0pbca8Gu/CPOiSaX14cSkjs9jqX9KQyk830F Swgi7x0LkKhkisj0/gxmkSHN1PkIyx8CQU/oD2uX7NTJ0i2Miib6PTQtabwuW0Zq+KL5 BykQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=egbUsiKUX+RGvxTQhOE0ZEaHBNUvlZGZgL0teYabui4=; b=Nm6EY1knsmKTjawT+Bl49RRSo7LS3z5y4eL2hU7oOm4kL/Tcexb7O4y2qbQ5w1d3fa ym6jiwnAgA8puExluBlnOB03ReuzXGV3+1QNPBwqzMP7KPSTe4zDDL8J/6g1DeC6UFgx z8PBk6gmTiyU1YLSPtG6HBjRYENC2dAUJaZvVZFgtbmz6EGsnEFsmfVJUVoaUCWecX1a 306UF96pe31Vlvqt7Qv1O0BmlZIOvGskct+YkVWyFahrrgk9YsaxP20Ayf1yzLYBArcA dIp0EkQekJR3ywN74Ry00Hj74eqshoD+QWoAqP4NKeB57xqsIx4+PG4qHdirwCiGEQBY S8Ow== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUeMBtHM8Kh6KycGtK8PrpifHFBqeq6Zyu9mU+BO/mx8rOJl3K7g8+il5u9Ts/Taw== X-Received: by 10.194.115.8 with SMTP id jk8mr30513275wjb.142.1460890239431; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 03:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([185.105.175.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f186sm40891624wmf.24.2016.04.17.03.50.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Apr 2016 03:50:38 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 In-Reply-To: <87k2jwd3gr.fsf_-_@gmx.de> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::243 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203005 Archived-At: On 04/17/2016 11:49 AM, Michael Albinus wrote: > We will always find examples where the entries in the manual are > inferior, compared with the docstring. We will also find examples with > incompatible information in the docstring and the manual. The `mapatoms' manual entry is neither. And yet, wouldn't you agree that it's problematic? > This does not mean that manuals are useless. It only means, that there's > a bug to be fixed. Sure. But I think that means that we should have a policy that the manual is secondary to the information contained in the source files. Right now, I have no idea which one is supposed to be the primary source of truth.