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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254212 Archived-At: > > > interactive-p is used too much in the wild for us to ever delete it= . > > > It should stay marked as obsolete, but with a comment saying "never > > > delete" or something, because removing it will break too much code > > > out there. >=20 > I agree we should never delete it, for that good reason. Good. That was the (only) point in question. > But we made it obsolete for a good reason, too: any program which > uses will misbehave in some unusual cases. The only way to get > fully correct behavior is to eliminate the calls to interactive-p, > and instead use an optional argument which gets a non-nil value > in an interactive call. >=20 > All the calls in the Emacs code have been replaced. Uh, no, I don't think so. (interactive-p) =3D=3D (called-interactively-p 'interactive) Grepping tells me there are 258 occurrences of the latter in the Lisp code distributed with Emacs.