From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Most of Elisp lacks lexical-binding: t Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 08:41:51 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <8d29ff9d-1d0f-497d-9b6b-9622182232d9@cs.ucla.edu> References: <15a15e1c-c44b-b978-82f0-7bbb6b1b8ff1@googlemail.com> <20190202145423.GB1067@ACM> <87y36vzrhl.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83zhraud00.fsf@gnu.org> <87imxwsn5t.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="161863"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 17:42:57 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1grmlM-000fwh-QP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 17:42:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43119 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grmlL-000535-Oy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:42:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40396) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grmkW-0004vJ-Eu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:42:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grmkU-0003Rm-3y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:42:04 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:59182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grmkT-0003O4-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:42:02 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C43E1612A1; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 08:41:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id sNssh9LWGJvr; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 08:41:52 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045EF1611C0; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 08:41:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id WUddxpo_3RMA; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 08:41:51 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CBF8216112F; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 08:41:51 -0800 (PST) Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEyAcmQBEADAAyH2xoTu7ppG5D3a8FMZEon74dCvc4+q1XA2J2tBy2pwaTqfhpxxdGA9 Jj50UJ3PD4bSUEgN8tLZ0san47l5XTAFLi2456ciSl5m8sKaHlGdt9XmAAtmXqeZVIYX/UFS 96fDzf4xhEmm/y7LbYEPQdUdxu47xA5KhTYp5bltF3WYDz1Ygd7gx07Auwp7iw7eNvnoDTAl KAl8KYDZzbDNCQGEbpY3efZIvPdeI+FWQN4W+kghy+P6au6PrIIhYraeua7XDdb2LS1en3Ss mE3QjqfRqI/A2ue8JMwsvXe/WK38Ezs6x74iTaqI3AFH6ilAhDqpMnd/msSESNFt76DiO1ZK QMr9amVPknjfPmJISqdhgB1DlEdw34sROf6V8mZw0xfqT6PKE46LcFefzs0kbg4GORf8vjG2 Sf1tk5eU8MBiyN/bZ03bKNjNYMpODDQQwuP84kYLkX2wBxxMAhBxwbDVZudzxDZJ1C2VXujC OJVxq2kljBM9ETYuUGqd75AW2LXrLw6+MuIsHFAYAgRr7+KcwDgBAfwhPBYX34nSSiHlmLC+ KaHLeCLF5ZI2vKm3HEeCTtlOg7xZEONgwzL+fdKo+D6SoC8RRxJKs8a3sVfI4t6CnrQzvJbB n6gxdgCu5i29J1QCYrCYvql2UyFPAK+do99/1jOXT4m2836j1wARAQABzSBQYXVsIEVnZ2Vy dCA8ZWdnZXJ0QGNzLnVjbGEuZWR1PsLBfgQTAQIAKAUCTIByZAIbAwUJEswDAAYLCQgHAwIG FQgCCQoLBBYCAwECH In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233093 Archived-At: On 2/6/19 2:47 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Breakage will be inevitable, indeed, but we can spread the pain over > some number of years. Fast bandaid removal causes significantly less pain than slow. See: Furyk JS, O'Kane CJ, Aitken PJ, Banks CJ, Kault DA. Fast versus slow bandaid removal: a randomised trial. Med J Aust. 2009 Dec 7-21;191(11-12):682-3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20028307 https://doi.org/10.5694/j.1326-5377.2009.tb03379.x