Dear emacs devs, I'm working on reproducible builds for openSUSE and in that process found that our emacs-29.1 package varies across builds from 2 different issues The diff is visible at https://rb.zq1.de/compare.factory-20231231/diffs/emacs-compare.out Here is a simple reproducer that works in our build env: cd ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/emacs-29.1/native-lisp && for i in $(seq 10) ; do ../src/emacs -batch \ --eval "(batch-native-compile t)" ../lisp/term/x-win.el && md5sum 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln done | sort | uniq -c That prints variations of 6 0c749bdbef8d9fa7b1afc2f042caf45b 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln 2 3022ea8c675b69ac79005281fd824179 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln 2 57bc581456c38395e9ac6409bbcb0d6e 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln while the same with setarch -R ../src/emacs produces deterministic 10 0c749bdbef8d9fa7b1afc2f042caf45b 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln So somewhere in the batch-native-compile code is a place that adds ASLR-related non-determinism into the .eln file. From the diff, it probably is some ordering issue. I'd appreciate pointers to where that non-determinism gets added and how to patch it out. And once that is solved, there is still part2: pdmp Ciao Bernhard M.