From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: announcing GNU ELPA updates [was: [elpa] master 9a3a508: Package transcribe added] Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:19:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8c1b4ee0-7c41-456a-bdad-ce1a941be748@default> References: <20151129123851.5369.35231@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448842804 6925 80.91.229.3 (30 Nov 2015 00:20:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-elpa-diffs@gnu.org To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel , David Gonzalez Gandara Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 30 01:19:50 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a3CC6-0001iv-19 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 01:19:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38307 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3CC9-000149-MH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:19:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3CBw-000142-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:19:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3CBs-0002GN-4E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:19:40 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:41301) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3CBr-0002Fu-Uf; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:19:36 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tAU0JX2j029887 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:19:34 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAU0JXiM026769 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:19:33 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAU0JXYZ032031; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:19:33 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195590 Archived-At: > we now announce on emacs-devel before adding new packages to Elpa. > There's more information on the readme.=20 > It's just a way of keeping everybody informed about new additions. 1. Why do we do this? It already gets "announced" on gnu-emacs-sources@gnu= .org. Also, I guess that the many messages I get on that list, and which are so succinct, are automated (?). For example: Version 20151123 of GNU ELPA package org has just been released. You can now find it in M-x package-list RET. More at http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/org.html It would be more helpful if a one-line description of what the package is/does were included. And that would probably also suffice as the initial "announcement" of a package, no? 2. A year ago, such automated announcements were being sent to info-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. Why the change? Now they drown out the source-code announcement messages submitted manually by actual users. IOW, gnu-emacs-sources@gnu.org has more or less been hijacked. I agree that GNU ELPA should announce its updates, but somewhere else might be better, no? What was wrong with info-gnu-emacs@gnu.org? I suppose that it was thought that the ELPA update msgs were drowning out other, more important messages about GNU Emacs. That's understandable. Maybe GNU ELPA updates need their own list, so they don't drown out anything?