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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274856 Archived-At: On 17.09.2021 14:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stefan@marxist.se, juri@linkov.net, >> rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 13:44:34 +0300 >> >> On 17.09.2021 09:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> E.g., I dislike the decision to remove >>> facemenu and its useful (for me) key bindings: should I now start a >>> lobbying thread explaining time and again why that should be reverted? >>> There's no end to this, and it is not a reasonable way to manage the >>> project development. >> >> If people come out en masse and say they want the face menu back, we >> should seriously consider it. > > How many are "en masse"? We have less than a dozen people claiming > they want `..' back, that's hardly a "masse" in my book. I don't see anybody concur with your stance in this particular discussion, and if you search the old one, I think it was mostly Paul (?), and even he was really arguing toward something different, in a different context as well (plain text files). Unlike some other questions, this is about the development process, and the team of regulars is not so big. A dozen people seems like a significant number for that purpose. >> Just like with any other change, especially those that are relatively >> easy to undo. > > This one isn't, because we have been using it for many moons now. > Some of it is practically impossible to undo, because it's in Git > commit log messages. Again, look at this discussion: nobody is disputing the format of log messages. Lars said we shouldn't care about it too much, but that's neither here nor there.