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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249605 Archived-At: On 09.05.2020 23:17, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Adding some integration in Emacs that wouldn't import Eglot but would >> increase its discoverability is also an option, and a worthy goal IMO. > > FWIW, if you install the `gnu-elpa` package, then `eglot` will be > autoload-installed (i.e. calling it will prompt the user to install the > `eglot` package and if accepted will then continue calling the > function). > > My hope is to distribute `gnu-elpa` "pre-installed" with Emacs-28. I'm sure it will be beneficial, but most of the upside will come from offering to install packages with corresponding major modes when one opens a file with a particular extension. For the user to type 'M-x eglot', or 'M-x global-company-mode', they'd have to be aware of either first, don't they? And 'M-x package-install', by itself, is not hard.