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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What to do about unmaintained ELPA packages
Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 00:54:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a6d74f7-b78f-3dad-1bd5-f41354f4391f@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0a42fc9.fsf@posteo.net>

On 30.05.2022 00:34, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
> There are some popular packages on GNU ELPA (and I expect NonGNU ELPA)
> that are practically unmaintained.  One example would be Yasnippet that
> has been gathering issues and pull requests on GitHub, mostly without
> any comments whatsoever.  For example, see
> https://github.com/joaotavora/yasnippet/issues.  Does anyone know of any
> other packages of this kind?

Talking about yasnippet in particular, it more in the "stable" rather 
than "bitrotten" category, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Or definitely not resort to measures like removing the reference to the 
upstream.

> I'd like to ask, if there some point at which should one should go from
> regarding packages like these from "de facto unmaintained" to "actually
> abandoned"?  Perhaps if there was no real activity for over a year,
> despite constant contributions?  Would it make sense to call for anyone
> new to take over maintaining the package?  Or depending on how long the
> package has been unmaintained, how popular the package is, how much
> effort it would take to apply the changes one could modify the package
> in elpa.git/nongnu.git and inform the maintainers that if they decide to
> start working on the package again, that there are downstream changes
> that they should look at.

Personally, carrying over the development on ELPA would seem 
counter-productive. Both due to the reduced potential community of 
contributors and reporters, and because of the wealth of reports, 
discussions and docs that reside at the currently dormant upstream. 
Kinda passive-aggressive, too.

I think the best step right now would be to try to contact Noah and ask 
to share commit access. And if not Noah, then Joao -- he's definitely 
still around.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-29 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-29 21:34 What to do about unmaintained ELPA packages Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-29 21:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-29 21:54 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2022-05-29 23:08   ` Tim Cross
2022-05-30 11:14     ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-05-30  6:58   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-30 13:45     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-30 14:46     ` João Távora
2022-05-30 22:51       ` Ergus
2022-05-30 23:04         ` João Távora
2022-05-31 16:42       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-31 22:08         ` João Távora
2022-06-01  5:57           ` Bozhidar Batsov
2022-06-01 22:56             ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-30 22:53 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-31 10:31   ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-05-31 12:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-31 13:39       ` Akib Azmain Turja

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