From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric? Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a5303a4-4f8c-4852-bef6-46ee3457a2c2@default> References: <2a7b9134-af2a-462d-af6c-d02bad60bbe8@default> <834mjecdy7.fsf@gnu.org> <38061f42-eaf1-47c6-b74d-f676ac952b18@default> <83r3miatvl.fsf@gnu.org> <21998.29683.916211.867479@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83pp1s7w1m.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441731841 25387 80.91.229.3 (8 Sep 2015 17:04:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 17:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 19:03:48 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZMJ8-0000Cw-ER for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 19:03:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35886 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZMJ8-00020T-7h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 13:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZMDB-0003F1-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:57:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZMDA-0002Wo-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:57:37 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:39715) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZMD6-0002Uf-Fi; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t88GvQjF018111 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:57:27 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t88GvPCu002669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:57:26 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t88GvOIQ026607; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:57:25 GMT In-Reply-To: <83pp1s7w1m.fsf@gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189722 Archived-At: > > > Because =E1 does include a diacritical. By specifying it, the user > > > told us the diacriticals are important, and shouldn't be > > > disregarded. > > > > I disagree. When I search for "M=FCller" I want it to also match > > "Muller" >=20 > Then you should type "Muller" instead of "M=FCller". I believe Ulrich is specifically asking to be able to type (or paste) "M=FCller" _instead of having_ to type "Muller", to match both "M=FCller" and "Muller". Telling him to just type "Muller" ignores his request and his argument that it is useful to be able to do what he asks. That's all we've heard, so far, as an argument against the proposal: You don't need it; just get by with the canonical chars instead of accented chars in search strings, if you want char folding. No reason given why someone should not _be able_ to do what Ulrich wants.