From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Emacs for new users Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:34:28 -0800 Message-ID: <8ECD017555784584B8FECFDBEE38442B@us.oracle.com> References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <485b0c380911230905t6513e718w1dd804e18003228@mail.gmail.com> <6E092AF13796494BADEBCE2C5C0361CE@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259188779 15505 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2009 22:39:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per@starback.se, 'Lennart Borgman' , rms@gnu.org, spedrosa@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 23:39:31 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDQWI-0003s4-1q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:39:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56477 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQWH-000144-Ng for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:39:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQRe-0004pA-Lv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:34:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQRa-0004mK-MU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:34:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48039 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQRa-0004mC-IY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:34:38 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:59717) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDQRX-0000rm-ON; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:34:36 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAPMZWd9017179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:35:33 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAPLudom001351; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:34:34 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt015.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 616858931259188459; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:34:19 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.80.204) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:34:18 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpuHoQ66yI6003+RMqagnQnGUNzVAAANe6g In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4B0DB0F5.0081:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117784 Archived-At: > > We could disable the keyboard and the mouse, and teach the Zen way. > > We could sell hair shirts and nail beds at www.gnu.org, to > > help new users get in the groove. > > I didn't mean to suggest it enabled by default, just as an optional > mode to help the people who want to unlearn the use of the arrow keys > (I read some posts in reddit about this and some people showed some > lisp for disabling the arrow keys). Anyway, it was just a suggestion. Sorry; I was just kidding.