From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:41:37 +0900 Message-ID: <8D6BBBC2-A32F-4614-AFF5-6C2B94E32607@gmail.com> References: <5610207A.2000300@harpegolden.net> <83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org> <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <561A6199.1020901@cumego.com> <561A6582.10908@cumego.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3094\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444570924 13169 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2015 13:42:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:42:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 15:42:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGst-0008KF-EL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 15:41:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48396 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGsn-00079e-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:41:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40179) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGsk-00079O-Aq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:41:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGsg-0001T1-Al for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:41:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b]:35407) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGsg-0001Sw-5b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:41:42 -0400 Original-Received: by pabve7 with SMTP id ve7so71726911pab.2 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 06:41:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Th+7AVYG1iYPIRmYhlkNay5AmKBKwiI4IEU+MxTXCDE=; b=yqx7DVV3k6bGZZtlNawfWuW4x8nX6BxxqK1yj49FSJiCrgozuUfxYLQY9AoSrUxIKD y6p5ZTOSRL/3wj1lpcTIk5+hW69F/bKZ2y5sS46pa/zop9CbyZd+Yft4LdalT5pE/3qz vuxT+JZxAZVsDQArw0c7qjOjP1OoHHKnFRG1rfbVNOQazjDU0YYkI4rNQspCo7Y39KqG FRnPOXH/YWmFlKAWFE1toRMhUP6khsc4b8//EmsgXTGJt7jTLT/MUBx6aHpXxqBH36Df ErwpPil4e1E4//L7KFt6n8bo40gSBUe7rl2FXJepcSj9LiOt8tX+Lsz/KgbHzhJV1qno oihQ== X-Received: by 10.68.189.198 with SMTP id gk6mr27947129pbc.141.1444570901671; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 06:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.24.54] (pl1488.nas981.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp. [124.154.41.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q8sm12997537pap.34.2015.10.11.06.41.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Oct 2015 06:41:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <561A6582.10908@cumego.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3094) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191227 Archived-At: > On Oct 11, 2015, at 22:34, Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski = wrote: >=20 > W dniu 11.10.2015 o 15:26, Jean-Christophe Helary pisze: >> Productivity for code *writers* could be defined by how many correct = code strings they output in a given amount of time. >>=20 >> Anything that >>=20 >> 1) increase the volume >> 2) increase the correctness >>=20 >> of the strings increases productivity. >=20 > I like jokes, but adding your "list of features" would be great too. = ;-) It was not intended as a joke :) But if we start by defining what we = mean by "productivity" in the context of code writing, then it's easier = to see what can be on the feature list and what does not need to be. Also, the above definition applies equally to any (non literary) writer. = So instead of thinking IDE, you could think IWE and get perspectives = that you would not have it you just focused on Emacs vs other IDEs. Jean-Christophe=20