From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:12:57 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8BF48F1F-F75F-11D7-A2F2-00039363E640@swipnet.se> References: <200310051756.h95Hunq22538@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065377831 17579 80.91.224.253 (5 Oct 2003 18:17:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 05 20:17:08 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A6DRM-0006Xc-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:17:08 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A6DRM-00031w-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:17:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6DPa-00030A-OB for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:15:18 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A6DP0-0002tI-Mk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A6DOS-0002fA-VG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:14:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.201.16.94] (helo=stubby.bodenonline.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6DNu-0002Us-TP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:13:35 -0400 Original-Received: from accessno42.bodenonline.com (accessno42.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.44]) by stubby.bodenonline.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h95IvYmh021459; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:57:34 +0200 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200310051756.h95Hunq22538@raven.dms.auburn.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16948 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16948 > Jan D. wrote: > > This still will not change the fact that pixmap based themes may > not use these colours. > > Do _only_ pixmap based themes create trouble with GTK customization? > If so, what percentage (very roughly) of themes are pixmap based? If > say, only the theme actually named "Pixmap", or similar themes whose > name clearly indicates that they are pixmap based, would be affected, > we could just tell users not to use these themes, if they want full > customizability. Of the 15 themes I have, 5 seems to be pixmap based. The pixmap based scroll bars does seem to be the ones that are immune to customizations. The names does not indicate anything. They have names like Grand Canyon, Crux, Mist, Ocean Dream, etc. > If any theme whatsoever can yield one type of problem or another with > the type of non-theme GTK customizability we want, then I agree with > Jan. Would it make any sense whatsoever to try to talk with GTK > people about our problems or is it obvious from prior experience that > this is just a waste of time? I'd say the later, but I might just have been unlucky w.r.t. getting my GTK bug reports fixed. Jan D.