From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: bug tracker woes/misunderstanding Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:54:08 -0700 Message-ID: <8AE8FB8BD0E445BF9DDB1B76516A292E@us.oracle.com> References: <042C2BC3673A4EA187047FE106A0ED89@us.oracle.com><4A9827DAE52C426592490BE0A45A4973@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1305305672 15961 80.91.229.12 (13 May 2011 16:54:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 18:54:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvdC-0002je-2t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 18:54:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57876 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvdB-000709-G0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:54:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvd8-0006zt-1T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:54:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvd6-0003E7-Uv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:54:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:60398) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvd6-0003Dz-LE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:54:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rtcsinet22.oracle.com (rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p4DGsHvG025678 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 May 2011 16:54:19 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by rtcsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4DGsGWj016286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 May 2011 16:54:17 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt007.oracle.com (abhmt007.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p4DGsAwC001539; Fri, 13 May 2011 11:54:10 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.43.79) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 13 May 2011 09:54:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwRjOC1/a4haqzoQPeDhz8k7eoDAAAAGLRw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 In-Reply-To: X-Source-IP: rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4DCD623B.01AF:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 148.87.113.121 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139370 Archived-At: > > Yes, OK. But what does it mean in terms of what someone > > should do when replying? > > What it mostly means is that you shouldn't use *Cc when sending bug > reports to Debbugs (you can use "X-debbugs-cc" instead). This is > clearly not the best aspect of Debbugs. Sorry, I don't know how to do that using my mail client (Outlook 2003; still very common). My choices are `Reply', `Reply All', and `Forward'. I can edit To, Cc, and Subject fields, of course, but I prefer not to have to do that each time I reply, just to satisfy the bug tracker. > > `Reply All' works for all of these, even though > > @debbugs.gnu.org is not a recipient. > > It only works thanks to the few sanity checks we perform when > receiving "new" bug-reports. Well, thank goodness you do that. Creating a new bug report each time someone hits `Reply' would be pretty brain-dead (i.e., not too sane). > > And it did not work when all I changed was "RE" to "OT". > > The sanity checks apparently assume that a reply should start with > "re:". That was my guess too. So the answer is to not remove "RE:". I imagine it is OK to add "OT", but not to replace "RE:" with "OT:". Depending on "RE:" for sanity sounds pretty fragile, but I can certainly live with that. This should be documented for users somewhere, if it isn't already.