From: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 03:46:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8A8DA980-13A7-4F8B-9D07-391728C673C9@raeburn.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83zih1jf37.fsf@gnu.org>
On Mar 4, 2017, at 09:23, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>>> Also, it looks like the logic in startup.el that should bypass certain
>>> stuff under -Q isn't working, because I see my abbrevs being loaded
>>> even though I invoked "emacs -Q". Thoughts?
>>
>> Strange… this is also working for me. At least, settings from my .emacs aren’t being applied, when I use “emacs -Q”.
>
> This problem is still there. It has nothing to do with loading
> ~/.emacs, though: startup.el always loads your ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs,
> if that file exists. I'm not sure why it loads that file, but I
> verified that the master version does that as well.
Odd, seems like -Q should skip that, with the rest of the user’s initializations.
>
> So the issue here is not that the file is loaded, but how it is
> processed. I only noticed this because my abbrev_defs file uses a
> function that is only defined in my .emacs. So "emacs -Q" on the
> raeburn-startup branch barfs because that function is not known.
> Strangely, "emacs -Q" on the master branch doesn't signal an error,
> and I don't even see Fsignal called if I set a breakpoint there. I
> don't (yet) understand why the different behavior.
>
> If you insert into your abbrev_defs file something that references a
> function which is not defined, do you see the same problem as I do?
I added a line:
(missing-function)
in between some define-abbrev-table invocations, and “emacs -Q” on master (2-3 weeks old) and raeburn-startup both complain about it for me.
> Btw, one thing that I saw while debugging is that purify-flag is set
> to t while running the startup code. This is because init_alloc_once
> is called during startup (previously, it was only called by temacs).
> I don't know if this is related to the issue (setting purify-flag to
> nil in Frecursive_edit didn't help), but I thought I'd bring it up,
> because maybe we need to set it to nil earlier.
I’ve been thinking that the branch should probably set CANNOT_DUMP unconditionally. The behavior around pure storage and such under CANNOT_DUMP is probably closer to what we want for the branch. But there’s at least one bug in building with CANNOT_DUMP for macOS I’ve got to clear up first. As you say, it may not be at all related to the problem you’re running into, though.
Ken
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2016-10-22 18:34 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-22 19:43 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
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2016-10-23 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 7:57 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 9:38 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 13:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 14:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 14:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 18:19 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 4:59 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 8:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-24 8:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:21 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-10-24 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 6:23 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-25 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-10-28 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 15:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-23 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 15:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-23 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 16:44 ` Skipping unexec via a big .elc file (was: When should ralloc.c be used?) Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:27 ` Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 12:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 1:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 6:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-10-24 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 8:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-24 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 9:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 10:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 10:03 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 10:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 10:28 ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-24 10:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 13:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 14:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:17 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 16:51 ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-24 19:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-25 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 16:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-25 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 22:53 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-26 2:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-26 2:37 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-24 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 22:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
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2017-04-03 18:35 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-03 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-04 8:08 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-04 9:51 ` Robert Pluim
2017-04-04 10:27 ` joakim
2017-04-04 12:14 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-04 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2017-04-04 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-04 18:22 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-07 5:46 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-04-07 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-07 9:02 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-07 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-07 16:02 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-04-07 16:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-08 15:03 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-08 15:15 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-04-08 15:53 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-08 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-08 18:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-01 11:41 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-08 17:58 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-05-01 11:40 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-05-01 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-18 17:39 ` Daniel Colascione
2017-05-18 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-25 15:46 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-12-25 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-25 19:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-26 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-07 21:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-15 22:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-16 8:45 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-01-16 10:25 ` Robert Pluim
2019-01-16 11:58 ` Phillip Lord
2019-01-18 12:46 ` Windows Binaries with pdumper Phillip Lord
2019-01-21 11:30 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2019-01-21 14:19 ` Phillip Lord
2019-01-16 12:00 ` Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Elias Mårtenson
2019-01-16 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-16 16:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-16 21:56 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-05-21 8:44 ` compiled lisp file format (Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file) Ken Raeburn
2017-05-21 8:53 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-28 11:07 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-05-28 12:43 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-05-29 9:33 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-07-02 15:46 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-07-03 1:44 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-09-24 13:57 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-27 8:31 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-05-28 21:09 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-29 9:33 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-05-29 16:37 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-29 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-29 18:03 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-29 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-29 20:15 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-30 5:52 ` Ken Raeburn
2017-05-30 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-21 16:02 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-07 13:23 ` Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Stefan Monnier
2017-04-10 16:19 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-24 18:34 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2016-10-24 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 12:55 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 14:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-23 20:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 5:11 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 12:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 18:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:27 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 6:03 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 6:23 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 7:09 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 7:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 8:11 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 8:44 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 9:52 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 13:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 15:41 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-29 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-29 6:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 12:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 11:40 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 14:41 ` Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
2016-10-28 15:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-24 18:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 19:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 3:12 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-25 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-26 4:36 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-26 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 8:51 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-24 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 18:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-24 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:56 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-24 0:21 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Richard Stallman
2016-10-24 3:59 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-24 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 16:55 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-24 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 6:38 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-25 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 23:49 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-26 5:08 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-26 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-26 13:10 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-10-26 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 1:23 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-27 1:36 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-27 13:35 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-27 14:51 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-27 15:05 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-27 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 21:03 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-27 21:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-27 23:23 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-27 23:32 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28 7:06 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 13:44 ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-10-27 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 20:39 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 19:12 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-29 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-29 14:55 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-30 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-30 21:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-29 16:38 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Richard Stallman
2016-10-29 21:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-31 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-31 20:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 12:51 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-27 20:40 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Richard Stallman
2016-10-27 22:34 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-28 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-26 11:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 1:24 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 12:57 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
2016-10-28 19:13 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-28 22:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-29 16:35 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-29 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-29 16:37 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-29 21:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-30 11:33 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-30 15:33 ` Alp Aker
2016-10-30 17:19 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-30 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 23:49 ` When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 1:22 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-25 23:00 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-26 2:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 1:25 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-24 14:04 ` When should ralloc.c be used? Stefan Monnier
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