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From: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fixing report-emacs-bug
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:52:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8A797DB4-C934-46B5-B452-18E032698DD2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4qba77gc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 4 Jul 2005, at 19:35, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> Who cares?  All the end user sees is that, without having messed  
> with the
> system in any way, her email didn't get to the destination and she  
> didn't
> receive a bounce either.  I.e. it's "lost".
>
> Whether a hacker/guru can recover the email 2 years later or not is  
> beside
> the point.

I agree 100%. That's why it would be good to get a warning from  
sendmail.

>> Just like on a GNU/Linux system with postfix shut down (is that  
>> so?  can't
>> check this lacking root access on our systems.)
>>
>
> Could be, but that doesn't make the behavior correct on Mac OS X.

Well, it's probably not good behavior on any system.

>> OK, that's a good idea.  I'll report this. But don't expect this  
>> to  be
>> changed any time soon.
>>
>
> Of course not.  But I just get really annoyed when people ask us to  
> work
> around bugs in proprietary systems without even bothering to try  
> and get
> those bugs fixed.

Fine I've reported the issue.
Don't forget that this is not just in a propriety system.

1. This occurs in Postfix, which is not proprietary software.
2. This occurs in Darwin, which is open source.
3. This will occur in any GNU/Linux system where the administrator  
has stopped the postfix daemon, which may be a reasonable thing to do  
when locking down a system.

I'll post any reply I get from Apple to this list.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-04 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-30 10:15 Fixing report-emacs-bug David Reitter
2005-06-30 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-03 19:14   ` David Reitter
2005-07-04  6:16     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-04 10:07       ` David Reitter
2005-07-04 10:24       ` Jan D.
2005-07-04 16:48         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-04 15:16       ` Joakim Verona
2005-07-04 16:03         ` David Reitter
2005-07-04 17:37     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-04 17:46       ` David Reitter
2005-07-04 18:35         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-04 18:49           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-04 19:34             ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-04 19:52           ` David Reitter [this message]
2005-07-04 22:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-05  2:38             ` Miles Bader
2005-07-05  4:33               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <E1Do6bF-0001Uq-3j@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-07-01 10:31   ` David Reitter
2005-07-01 22:45     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-03 19:21       ` David Reitter
2005-07-03 20:52         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-04  6:17         ` Richard M. Stallman

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